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  What novels would you recommend?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i used to have a large-ish novel collection but my current collection is scaled-down because i was forced to move back to bolton 4 years ago and didn't have enough room for them all in my suitcases.. i currently own just 9 novels.. salem's lot (stephen king).

  three by john ajvide lindqvist:.

  let the old dreams die.

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  Currently reading:

  American Gods by Neil Gaiman

  Queued:

  The Trial by Franz Kafka (many parallels with the way JW elder meetings are conducted)

  Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyevsky

  Ana Karenina by Tolstoy
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  What Percentage of active JW's are on Anti-Depressants?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i came across an xjw post on redditt from a rn.

  she states that nearly every jw she ever treated was on anti-depressants or anti-psychotic drugs:.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/f35vaa/just_about_every_jw_i_come_across_is_on/ i once read somewhere that 1 in 5 jw's were on anti-depressants, but i couldn't find any documentation.

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  I know most people were either alcohol-happy or even other drugs like marijuana wasn’t uncommon when I was a teen-21yo (yes, baptized, servant males, elder kids etc). Once people got older and married they had psychological illnesses, if you weren’t outright schizophrenic, many people had fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue syndrome. One kid I grew up with, beautiful girl, full of life and energy, got married at 18 with a ‘star witness’ 25yo elder-and-co-family and became chronically fatigued in 2 months. No wonder so many take their own life or have attempted.

  The literature is scant since JW’s make up literally 0.1% of the population, but here are some interesting starting points:

  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1174772/

  followers of the sect are three times more likely to be diagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia and nearly four times more likely from paranoid schizophrenia than the rest of the population at risk.

  Back of the napkin analysis:

  This means that between 1 and 2% of all Witnesses are likely to be schizophrenic or paranoid schizophrenic. If this holds not just to schizophrenia but any mental illness, which is 20% of the population, that says 60-80% of JWs can be diagnosed with a mental illness.

  Having administered tests like that myself however, I will note that answering questionnaires truthfully as a JW (the belief and fear of imminent disaster and self-centered divine channels and intervention) does already put you high up on the scores for diagnosable psychosis.

  Given 47% of patients with schizophrenia have serious problems with drug or alcohol use during their lifetime and 10% of patients with diagnosed mental illness self-reported such problems in the last year, that suggests a rate of 1 in 5 JW’s have been alcoholics/drug users in the last year.
  

  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25261980/
  

  This article is really good for therapists that seek to engage with JWs or exJWs.

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  It is possible that members from a Fundamentalist religion may experience a higher prevalence of psychosis or be vulnerable to a psychotic level of thinking. This is because at its core, Fundamentalism relies upon the splitting off of good and bad objects, and dualistic ways of viewing the world that do not easily allow for tolerating or coping with ambiguity, uncertainty, or the nuance of complex life circumstances. … Since the very premise of [Jehovah’s Witnesses] relies upon the threat of annihilation as a means of control, it is possible that members’ worldviews may be tinged with paranoid or persecutory fears.
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  BBC & Gary Lineker

  by BoogerMan in

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  whether you like or loathe the guy, agree or disagree, surely he has a right to express his opinions freely on twitter?.

  every bbc employee who appears on tv or speaks on the radio, should now be paranoid about any opinions they've put on their social media accounts, because if the bbc are prepared to censor/silence lineker, they'll go for anyone.. oops: looks like the bbc can dictate what their staff can & can't say in their social media accounts.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/guidance/individual-use-of-social-media.

  pity they weren't as strict with their high profile paedophile, mr. savile..

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  The BBC is pretty partisan for being paid for by tax payers. The fact he got ‘punished’ is surprising given his political stance is very much in line with the BBC, then again, he’s already been reinstated, so it was just a slap on the wrist and he continued tweeting his political crap. The Wokists will have their way, makes a really good case for having BBC completely privatized and defunded though.
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  Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany

  by EdenOne in

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  mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

  at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

  single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.

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  Sad to hear it happen. Churches across Europe are under attack. In the US many Orthodox synagogues (Jews are amongst the highest attacked groups) have taken to having armed guards and encourage members to conceal carry. Sadly, JWs will never be allowed to protect themselves and the WTBTS will make this into a media spectacle instead, the GB are crisis actors when it comes to this.
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  Is there really any universal issue of Sovereignty?

  by Linda14 in

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  i can agree that satan doesn't see god as a good ruler as stated at gen 3:1-5. he doesn't seem to see gods laws as right or good.

  but whether there is an understanding/agreement between god and satan afterward to the effect that he can take the mantle of rulership to show whether his style is best is doubtful.

  that conclusion is probably reached because god hasn't destroyed satan, and he is also called the ruler of the world in the bible.

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  Here is the issue, when god feels challenged in the Bible he often punished swiftly and immediately. When the ark was about to fall or when someone did a census or entered the holiest of holy in the temple or when the watchers came to earth to copulate with women, Tower of Babel etc etc

  So why is it that even angels are punished quickly, but Satan is the exception (according to Adventist views).

  In that light, wouldn’t that prefer the original Jewish view that Satan does not exist as an entity but rather evil is an aspect of God himself, God rewards and God punishes. You can even have the view described in Job that it is Gods will for people to suffer where Satan is a Prosecutor, an agent of God that searches out the individual's wrongdoings and appears as their accuser.
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  Details of Noah’s Ark

  by enigma1863 in

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  jw magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.. is it detailed?

  name one person outside of noah’s family.

  name one nephilim.

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  Note the KJV translation of the Bible (as we know it today and which the WTBTS supposedly references) makes no reference to the Nephilim being fallen angels, or that the flood was intended to remove them.

  As far as names, Semjaza was the leader of this group (if I recall correctly, appointed by God to be the watchers) and came out of the Sons of God (not from the Shedim or Jinn as the WTBTS claims) and there were 200 of them, during the flood they left their bodies behind (as depicted in the Bible Story book) were subsequently cast into Tartarus. So according to this account, there have been multiple rebellions in heaven, one by Sheitan (Satan) and one by Semjaza.

  According to 2 Chronicles and 2 Samuel though, David and his men were the one that defeated these “descendants of Rapha in Gath”

  The Nephilim being the offspring of humans and demons and leaving their bodies in the flood to then re-join Satan is a very modern re-interpretation trying to read stories about giants in the Torah as a literal source and not allegorical.

  Both of those narratives and relatively accurate depictions in WTBTS Bible Story book/publications are ONLY found in apocryphal books (Book of Enoch and Jubilees).
  
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  JWs mental health

  by Hellothere in

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  do they have any kind of mental health arrangements at bethel?

  i mean to help jws with mental problems.

  like a psychiatric.

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  Even if they had mental health professionals, which some here claim (but I have never seen that, neither at Selters nor at Warwick), those would be, like the rest of their workforce, also JWs. I know there are JW psychiatrists, the problem with that is you can’t truly be open, so you’re lying to the people supposed to help you. Beyond that, any admission of weakness or sin would result in a report going up to your elders.

  Having implemented and performed the standardized psychometric tests, EVERY true believer like the ones at Bethel would be immediately diagnosed with DID and PTSD (frequent and interfamilial emotional trauma, dissociative amnesia, persistent negative ideas about self and the world, detachment from family and society) with dissociative behaviors because of the derealization and depersonalization that is required to be embedded at that level in the cult.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  I think it is hilarious the way tru JW are reacting to all this, you never know this might wake someone up.

  I guess we just have to wait until the next “local needs” broadcast to find out what really happened. Perhaps it will be about drunkenness, perhaps it will be about diddling children, perhaps about not being drunk while you’re diddling children.
  
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  Jw shot and killed in field service!

  by nowwhat? in

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  another example of jehovah protects his people except when he doesn't.

  https://www.wifr.com/2023/02/12/rockford-police-54-year-old-man-shot-killed-vehicle/.

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  @joey: in Chicago you currently cannot own a gun until you are 21, it is illegal to own any semi-auto (which covers most handguns and most modern rifles), shortened shotguns, AR15, anything that has attachments, anything with more than 10 rounds or other home defense weapons.

  For the few remaining weapons, which would be single shot rifles, revolvers and derringers, you are required to submit yourself to an investigation, perform a 16 hour training course and then anyone (your neighbor, family, law enforcement) can simply say that you are a danger to yourself or others and immediately your second amendment rights are terminated upon review by an unelected review panel that isn’t liable to any branch of government.

  At any point you have the gun outside your house, it must be completely concealed, your gun most be broken down, locked up and unloaded, carrying a gun even with a difficult to obtain license is illegal in all public transport, restaurants, bars, stadiums, parks, library, museum, stores, pretty much ANYWHERE you go.
  

  Yeah, it’s pretty hard to obtain and carry a firearm in Chicago, and the crime rates are accordingly high and going higher as lawful citizens cannot defend themselves. Even the EU (directive 2021/555) doesn’t have quite such stringent gun laws.
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  Jw shot and killed in field service!

  by nowwhat? in

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  another example of jehovah protects his people except when he doesn't.

  https://www.wifr.com/2023/02/12/rockford-police-54-year-old-man-shot-killed-vehicle/.

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  I know a pioneer that got a gun hole in his car during service near his gas tank. He was very proud about how Yah protected him, although even if it hit his tank, it wouldn’t have blown up the car (Mythbusters tested that).

  In regards gun laws, this person was already not permitted to have a gun, this happened near Chicago, an area with the most stringent gun laws in the world (even worse than Europe). The kid shot from a car he wasn’t allowed to drive, shot a gun he wasn’t allowed to have. My opinion this was a dumb mistaken identity, our Witless was likely driving a car very similar to another drug dealer or opponent gang member, because we all know Witlesses nor gangbangers can afford to drive anything nice.

  Where are his parents, why wasn’t he in school? Why aren’t the JWs promoting actual fixes, such as strong families and outreach programs for youngsters in trouble?